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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.06 23:58:00 -
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if that was supposed to be the attack of the walking trees on saurons stronghold (tpar-g) its safe to say that this time saurons urukhai had flamethrowers and chainsaws ready...
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.08 14:23:00 -
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seems like Ascn leadership is now aware of the demoralizing effect the tpar results have on their troops moral.
Ascn added non BoB corps (tpar locals) kills to the campaign data to boost the efficency from 30 to 40% ignoring to add Aznac, Pos and Axe losses ofc.
Who are you trying to kid cyvok ? This reminds me soo much about the good old Xetic days. Give it 2 more weeks and Cyvok will make a run for the hills again...
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.08 14:29:00 -
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 Originally by: Butter Dog
Certainly if my recorded voice appeared on a publically accessible website without my permission, I'd have a few things to say. Or rather, my solicitor would.
Yes he would most likely tell you to call him again when uve a real job for him instead of something you think of beeing a huge lawcase.
In most countries of this world someone using a free internet voicechat proggy and whining about beeing recorded for non commercial use will get laughed at by his own lawyer and the judge. Especially if ure talking about spaceships, virtual posessions and "logging off".
So please stop beeing a part time lawyer....
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.08 14:35:00 -
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Originally by: Butter Dog
Why are you directing that reply at me? I'm not the one who's voice it is.
If you think this behaviour is acceptable, you are an unfortunate and sad individual. And I mean that in a very RL sense.
Because youre the one wasting alot of breath trying to prove a point which has neither legally nor morally a ground to stand on ?
I really love the internet ppl who try to tell you with a straight face they will make a huge lawcase out of something which most courts wouldnt even look at considering the flood of trials and the unimportance of the case.
And thats not even covering "cross nation" lawcases and all the other areas such a lawsuit would touch.
So please do yourself a favour and get back on the real topic. Ascn spaceships pew pew vs bob spaceships pew pew.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.08 14:43:00 -
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Originally by: Dekiri
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You know what, visit your own lawyer and present him the case. I know the outcome and ive seen it before. You on the otherhand believe in all the yada yada some clueless guys with neither a lawdegree nor any knowledge of international law spout.
Back on topic. Ascn seems to be on the backfoot ? Whats the new strategy now or are you just soldiering on ?
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.08 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Dekiri
Originally by: Kcel Chim
Originally by: Dekiri
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You know what, visit your own lawyer and present him the case. I know the outcome and ive seen it before. You on the otherhand believe in all the yada yada some clueless guys with neither a lawdegree nor any knowledge of international law spout.
Back on topic. Ascn seems to be on the backfoot ? Whats the new strategy now or are you just soldiering on ?
You don't get it i guess. It is not about making a huge lawsuit. It is probably completly impossible to punish someone for that, because you can't proove who did it. The point is that it is violating basic human rights and it is going a step to far into peoples privacy.
The point is what is right and wrong and this is definitly wrong in a real life kind of way.
I don't know about you, but i had my deals with international law myself more then once business wise and i am quite well trained when it comes to business stuff and the international "rights". I am also aware that you wont be able to get someone into jail for that most likely unless he is stupid and confesses that it was him.
Everybody with bit of a brain would realize that it is indeed violating the laws of pretty much all of the free countries in the world. Wether or not you can punish someone for it is irrelevant.
as i said im my previous post, present your case to some lawyer close to you. Good or bad aside and let him tell you what will come out of it. Theoretically "robbing the t2 bpo from my corp" is as wrong since i rob them of their time spend etc. Still its part of this game. Ascn needs to tighten security and they wouldnt have spies. No matter if they just record stuff or just listen in. Private conversations are best held in private. Afterall youre not shouting out your bank details in a bar either and complaining later somene might have witnessed it or ?
Now get back to the topic otherwise the mods will simply lock it for going offtopic and the tpar siege isnt over yet, is it ? So it would be a shame to kill this informative thread because of some semi knowledge law yada yada.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.08 16:54:00 -
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it is amazing how 1 completely uninvolved person, neither bob nor Ascn stirrs a legal and moral debate about "spies" in eve. A topic which was covered already 100 times.
As far as the rest goes, Bob wont lose your "respect" because lets be honest here you didnt have any when u started following them around trolling each and every thread they make (made) tho it doesnt concern you or your part of the universe.
Any major entity in this game i will call out on throwing a fit about spies and backhanded deals simply because its part of the game. Everyone has a forum or ts spy. So anyone but the least involved empire agentrunner can claim any moral highground.
Ascn itself has on more then 1 location used spies to their advantage or how else do you think Cyvok usually gets the infos leading to his paranoid alliancemails and blogposts announcing the next invasion or the next attack ?
Espionage is part of the game, it was even praised on the first advertisements of eve-online. Dont forget half of the intel is either paranoia or from disgrunted/ displeased (real) alliancem8s so if Ascn cant keep their lines closed maybe its a symptom of internal struggle or some factions trying to make their own money/deal on it ?
Its no secret that certain corps within Ascn didnt pull their weight yet and the lone npcer who just tries to freeload some hot factionloot will more then once do everything possible to keep his faction fitted Caldari navy raven and the hunting grounds paying for it.
Afterall thats how Ascn was born while kicking the rest of Xetic out of 0.0 and signing a deal with the enemy cyvok himself summoned upon Xetic.
Do you really think certain elements in Xetic didnt hand out info to .5. to buy future miningrights or "space"`? Speak about doublemorals when it comes to ethics.
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2006.10.10 00:14:00 -
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Originally by: Louisa Torres
Originally by: VonKaplanek III
Real classy! Nothing but pages and pages filled with arrogant puke spewing trolls and their spin master alts talking to each other. 
Our dreads are now finishing off your last POS in TPAR.
That's, for those that are counting, number THIRTEEN.
All the while your fleet is sat grooming each other in TCAG and outnumbering us by the usual 2:1.
Bring it?
if that info is correct then cyvok will have to reevaluate his beachhead invasion. After losing 13 towers, 350 bs, far more support and a handfull of capital ships his invasion fleet is on the backfoot.
Frontline supply depots are empty (atleast if it comes to battleships) and the idea to tie bob down in its own home doesnt seem to work either judging from their lightning raids deep into feythabolis and other ascn regions.
One might ask how far Cyvok will go with this operation where it gets obvious its a matter of either losing face by calling it off and admitting it was a failure or sending more troops into the meatgrinder of delve in the vain hope to get miraculously the upperhand?
Unless the US timezone Ascn fleet makes a difference the tpar invasion seems to end with bob 1 : Ascn 0.
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